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I personally am very much against true child abuse, ESPECIALLY if it's hidden by the 'discipline' excuse. But I also think that there is a line between abuse and discipline.

I was disciplined as a child but I was never abused with it. I turned out fine as did everyone I know growing up. Not every child is able to respond to, oh say time out and will take it as a joke while some children a sharp look is all they need while again others may respond to a light smack on the but best of all (I don't mean full out slap but enough that they feel it, but not enough to really hurt them).

Welts, bruises, broken bones, and cuts should never be put on a child by their parents. But a slight slap on the hand to keep a child from touching a hot stove is better than saying something, them not listening, and then they getting REALLY hurt by a burner. In that scenario, if you own a gas burning stove you may actually have to take your child to the doctor for some pretty nasty burns.

Taking a child to the doctor is never fun, but having to take them with burns (no matter how severe) is a parents nightmare. Especially if the child managed to get 2nd or 3rd degree burns from a stove top.

Wow, that was a really long post sorry about that. Anyways it all boils down to: If you can raise your child without raising your hand to them, good for you. Everyone should be able to raise their child how they see fit, as long as they don't cross that line from discipline into abuse.

There is a time and place for everything and while I don't mind spanking, I think it should be the last resort in case the kid(s) responds better to a different type of discipline.

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This stamp isn't touching on the subject of abuse, no matter my opinions on it.

"Not every child is able to respond to, oh say time out"


Yes they do, how they respond is up to the parents backbone and assertiveness.


A sharp slap is a slap, and it's violence in the end and as the stamp and I have stated, Violence makes problems, not solves them.



"But a slight slap on the hand to keep a child from touching a hot stove is better than saying something, them not listening, and then they getting REALLY hurt by a burner."

No, A slight slap (no matter how you word it it's still a slap) is NOT better than saying something.



In the end if the kid doesn't listen it's not the kids fault, it's the parents. Slapping that child doesn't teach them not to do it because they will get hurt, it teaches them just not to do it when the parent is there.




Again, this isn't touching on the subject of abuse, it's focusing on the fact that violence doesn't solve problems and children don't deserve to be the subject to pain and fear.



Violence is not discipline.

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"Not every child is able to respond to, oh say time out"
Okay, I could’ve worded that better, not all children take time out seriously, and some kids (strangely enough) like time out, and really isn’t a punishment for them. That was more my point there.


Yes they do, how they respond is up to the parents backbone and assertiveness.

Assertiveness and backbones are something all parents do need and the lack of them, I think, is to blame for a lot of the annoying brats that think they own the world running around.


No, A slight slap (no matter how you word it it's still a slap) is NOT better than saying something.
True, but it is quicker. I’m not saying slapping the hand away from a stove and not telling them that ‘Hey, this is hot don’t touch’ but maybe instead quickly grabbing them away from said hot stove would be better. Though a lot people’s first reaction is a quick, sharp slap to the back of the hand.


Again, this isn't touching on the subject of abuse, it's focusing on the fact that violence doesn't solve problems and children don't deserve to be the subject to pain and fear.
Okay, that’s understandable. Most arguments for anti-violence discipline are rooted in abuse and since your author’s comments mentioned that I thought that was where you were coming from.

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I agree. Studies show that people who use violence as punishment are usually people who have problems or are just dysfunctional.

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